Jul 8th 2011, 16:31:06
Originally posted by Gibber:
Originally posted by dagga:
Seriosuly, you guys want to have a fair and balanced chat stop the bullfluff "SOL is a bully they deserve it" routine. I know it makes you feel better but here are the facts;
Last 12 months;
Jun 2010: SOL gets called by imag into LCN vs Imag war
Aug 2010: SOL hits LaF over land:land
Oct: 2010: LAF hits SOL as revenge, PDM hits SOL, SOL hits imag
Dec 2010: Imag hits SOL, Rage calls in SOL to hit LCN
Feb 2011: NA calls in SOL to destroy imag
Apr 2011: SOL hits LCN/ICN over grabbing, IMAG hits SOL, SOL keeps the war at 110 members vs 75-80.
Last 12 months;
Jun 2010: SOL gets called by imag into LCN vs Imag war
Aug 2010: SOL hits LaF over land:land
Oct: 2010: LAF hits SOL as revenge, PDM hits SOL, SOL hits imag
Dec 2010: Imag hits SOL, Rage calls in SOL to hit LCN
Feb 2011: NA calls in SOL to destroy imag
Apr 2011: SOL hits LCN/ICN over grabbing, IMAG hits SOL, SOL keeps the war at 110 members vs 75-80.
Where is the war with LCN and LCN called Omega in? Did that just vanish?
it vanishes because it doesn't support his point :P
about Jun 2010... i wasn't around so i don't want to say what i heard (i only want to say what i saw for the sake of accuracy and not playing telephone), but my hunch is it wasn't this simple otherwise why would both imag and LCN end up warring you after?
how can you go from "getting called by imag" into a war to warring both of them in multiple times in a few short resets? you are missing some key information here to your story because from someone who just came back recently, your storyline has some holes in it to explain what happened.
Aug 2010 and Apr 2011 is what we all already identified as the classic SOL war case. find a grabbing issue "usually over L:L, etc." and use it as a reason to blindside netters that you isolated politically. almost every single netter you FSed for the past few years see it this way so it's not like i'm trying to make this up.
it's pretty clever actually but we've all seen it for more than 10 years now. fundamentally there is nothing wrong really. you created a valid reason (with your differing policies) to go against which isn't really a problem because you have your own rights. your heads are smart enough to pact the right guys so you can be in an environment to win the wars you planned out. it's probably the most successful war formula in the history of this game and that's why you guys do it. this is also the same reason why netters run 0 troop countries when they net and farm the hell out of untags. because they work we both refuse to give an inch to let go of what we done for 10+ years.
we know it works for SOL and it might continue to work. no one doubts if SOL will survive or if their tactics will work in this game. you guys have more than proven that and i respect SOL for that. it's similar to how netters run 0 troop netter countries that farm untags because that will give you a better chance at top ranks/ANW/TNW titles. what i was trying to point out that both ideas are detrimental to the game in terms of building community. and until our current devs fix mehul's design flaws i was just hoping the community would collectively universally agree to some sacrifices to their tried and true methods for the sake of community building.
i have some doubts anything like that will happen though. it's just too easy to do what you are used to and cruise based on that. which is fine...
Don Hanlong
Don of La Famiglia
Don of La Famiglia