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Vic Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 19:50:34

you need one or two guys (or more helps) with dedicated SPAL countries to 'market spy' the server multiple times each day.
the more guys and the more timezones represented the easier this becomes.

from what i continue to hear, some of you pick up 45 and below EVERY set from someone dropping a serious load of it. so this seems fairly organized and once you get someone on a market spy with oil up for those prices, just spy their allies and start to poke and prod and see what comes up

Vic Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 19:51:39

this is much tougher in express as goods hit market very quickly, but given the amount of time some people put into this server (myself included, when i play) i don't think that should be too much of an obstacle

ssewellusmc

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Jan 23rd 2014, 19:57:41

So you are saying, we should work together and share spy information?

Vic Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 19:58:45

bet you thought you were real quick and witty with that one, didn't you?

the answer is you are incorrect!

each individual SPAL country simply reports to mods and mods take it from there once they find which countries have been coordinating

ssewellusmc

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Jan 23rd 2014, 20:01:27

Just wanted you to clarify so no one gets deleted!

Vic Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 20:05:00

:p

Cable Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 20:08:21

Had I thought about it I could have told you it was, I have ops on the early oilers, because I was looking to make grabs on them... greedy me let me edit this post and come back with names.


68 and 26 where the guys selling super cheap oil. Not 100% which one it was but they both had quite a but if cash and oil rigs.

Edited By: Cable on Jan 23rd 2014, 20:13:32
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Getafix Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 20:40:30

Its not all going to SO's. Some of it sat on the market for 15 minutes so I don't think the $43 oil is coordinated today.

Cable Game profile

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Jan 23rd 2014, 20:51:42

Yah it is, because someone kept trying to out bid me for it, I one uped him over and over for 30 min while trying to snag it. Some oil hit at 45 and last 1 min between my SO privy sell back and went to buy it out and it was gone.

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Jan 23rd 2014, 20:54:31

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Jan 24th 2014, 5:51:24

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Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

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Jan 25th 2014, 2:07:52

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Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

braden Game profile

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Jan 25th 2014, 3:19:03

james joyce was an irish drunkard with poor vision

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Jan 25th 2014, 3:31:27

yeah he was cool
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

braden Game profile

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Jan 25th 2014, 3:34:24

the difference is i'm only one sixteenth irish and i have good vision.. otherwise, we're essentially the same person!

me being a welsh drunkard with perfect vision. vision so good i see two of everything.

Xinhuan Game profile

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Jan 25th 2014, 6:03:20

Originally posted by Vic:
you need one or two guys (or more helps) with dedicated SPAL countries to 'market spy' the server multiple times each day.
the more guys and the more timezones represented the easier this becomes.

from what i continue to hear, some of you pick up 45 and below EVERY set from someone dropping a serious load of it. so this seems fairly organized and once you get someone on a market spy with oil up for those prices, just spy their allies and start to poke and prod and see what comes up


Why would you need to do this? I assume a mod can just look up who's goods is on the market at what price at any time...

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Jan 25th 2014, 6:24:04

Xinhuan, I just argued for two weeks that the mods should have that power, to no avail

Originally posted by Getafix:
Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
It should be easy to ask Tellarion to check if all those $21 oil come from the same player.

Unfortunatly both tella and I cannot track that.
I am pointing qzjul to this thread when I see him.
Thank you Getafix for coming to me :)


Originally posted by Getafix:
I agree with you completely about the benefits of SO's, qzjul. But there are ways to overcome the market and cheat. H2o pointed out how these methods can work in an Express thread a few days ago.

It may seem like more work for the mods but I think you will find that if you ask them, they would like to have another tool in their repertoire. I have read threads by Warster and chatted with galleri that say as much.

So I still argue that the mods should be able to see market data about who sold and bought what.


(note from me, the following response when he says "I did check, they do" from qzjul was saying that the $21 oil barrels came from a player, not from a programming bug)

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Originally posted by qzjul:
I did check, they do. I'm not making mod market tools any time soon, that's a lot of work that would be better spent doing other upgrades first...

Edited By: Getafix on Jan 25th 2014, 6:28:30
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tellarion Game profile

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Jan 25th 2014, 10:58:12

If you send me your suspicions of who is buying and who is selling, I can check. Otherwise it's a tiny needle in a large haystack...

Heck, even getting me one pair would help as I can track them over multiple sets. Otherwise it's impossible...

Xinhuan Game profile

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Jan 25th 2014, 13:01:06

Dang. So basically, we need more mod tools to be coded in.

tellarion Game profile

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Jan 25th 2014, 13:43:25

1 country alone won't help, but as I said, give me two countries and I can check some things.