Looks like LaF's import of eestats isn't retaining last set's news: https://eestats.lafamiglia-ee.eu/primary/oldranks/6643
I don't see previous rounds stored on Little Italy's page either: https://li.servegame.com/news/rank_list.php?snum=11

Is that stuff just lost now?

It goes both ways. If you're going to attempt to farm someone over their retal, you have to be able to defend yourself well or your own finish is going to go up in smoke. It may be a situation of mutually assured destruction, and if it is, by breaking GDI you are the one pulling that trigger. Are you pulling it out of principle? How bad does the jet:turret ratio have to be, or how poorly does your own set have to be going, for you to make that decision? I guess we all have our lines but "jetter" is a pretty broad one.

Sounds like you have much in common with an all jetter then!

Forget exactly but I was probably like 12m jet:4.5m turret ratio or so when I retaliated on a guy who then went to farm me this round. I was 400 turns behind and still hit him back within only a few days, he just made a bad grab imo. I don't think it worked out very well for him or the other player who tried it. Sometimes you just have to swallow your pride and admit to yourself you made a mistake. Land is scarce and we may make risky hits against competent players, that of course makes sense, but retaliating is also how someone playing from behind can opportunistically gain their own land and demonstrate to others that it's not worth hitting them. I'll agree that I don't like countries putting all reason aside and gunning for retals to their own deep detriment, in that case they also should perhaps swallow their pride some.

Okay, maybe you’re not gonna take up this particular suggestion, totally fine ofc. just for a moment, though, putting aside what your ultimate decision will be, and putting aside initial gut reactions:

the news and market interfaces act like holdovers from the Mehul era, I think it’s fair to say? Much more intuitive when you look at the scores list and want to check a country out would be to click on that country, not to go to a separate news page and then run a search on their country number. I mentioned before also how you can get a more complete market picture faster and easier too. I would suggest there’s a case to be made for modernizing the display and navigation here.

In terms of the game being able to be played without third party sites, I would argue there is universal adoption of third party tools among competitive players (on any server that allows it). I dont suggest the game try to chase any little feature people have out there on their sites, but I believe the game should make more easily accessible the very core acts of looking up the country list, checking news, reading markets. Basic stuff that could be executed better for e2025 here in the year 2026.

Anyway I’ve said my piece, thanks again for giving me your ear

Oh happy to elaborate. I appreciate your response.

First and foremost, with eestats you can click simply on a country and see its complete news history, all attacks of all attack types for the round. And then the other countries in that history are also clickable. Simple navigation and extremely useful functionality.

Next, with their market page, you can just click last 6 hours, last 12/24/48/72 hours, and see the outputs of different nice tables containing min/max/avg/totals of all goods that sell on the market. Maybe the in-game ability to search X hour intervals is more powerful overall, and can still be of use. But having to basically fill out a form entering multiple numbers and selecting a single commodity is a big step down in terms of useability, and the output isn't as clean as the tables eestats provides.

Additionally I like how on a country page you can then click the history button to open a log of every change of state on a country (nw or land), timestamped. But as obviously that can be quite long, so it's otherwise hidden, just waiting there available on demand. Misc stats page pop up info is nice too. Beyond that, I'd say the UI theming is also just so clean (color scheme, font size, etc.) so as to be maximally absorbable. Graphs are collapsed/uncollapsable too.

Thanks for the link. Without it i was realizing I would literally no longer be able to look up who I had retaliated against if more than a week had gone by. It looks like this site has made the effort to give DR calculation attempts also, which is new to me. I will also note, the laf hosted install of eestats seems to work everywhere except the for the news on Primary. They can probably fix that. But that brings me back to the original point, I don't see a reason people should have to go to external pages for this.

Back from some time off and I see eestats is gone. Reading around people say LaF is hosting it now, but
#1, a universally essential tool being hosted by an alliance feels a bit off, and
#2, if I'm in the right place it doesn't properly work...?

None of the countries' news histories are loading here: https://eestats.lafamiglia-ee.eu/primary

Don't really know much about this sort of thing but the code for eestats seems to be on github. Searching the news with EE's in-game functionality is extremely unfriendly from a user interface POV. Eestats is attractive, simple, and helpful. I think this sort of feature should be incorporated into the game instead of left as an offsite tool.

It's hard to find the time to really "go for it" in Express but I've always thought it's the server most likely to ever bring in an actual "new" player since I think new players wouldn't really get "oh my turns are out and I won't get another one for 30 minutes? and then it'll just be one?" Not exactly what someone who is used to scrolling on a neverending feed 8 hours a day would expect.

Sorry I mostly play Express and Primary/Classic

Been trying but no not really. Overflowed my turns like 5 times already

I'm an old player who's been gone myself lol

Bring back some old players

Okay, so you've linked the primary source of an official statement from Hamas, documenting the reasons for their resistance and October 7 on pages 3-7. It talks about repression, impoverishment, imprisonment, theft, and killings by the Israeli state and the failures of peaceful attempts at justice. It's a useful link to see their perspective but you're over here talking about red cows, notably not mentioned here at all. Please get serious.

Lmao the situation is extremely serious but nobody cares about your children's superstitions about red cows. What are you, 12?

From what I'm seeing it was basically like Isnreal got a third party to send one cruise missile which got blocked by GDI, then they claimed they did something.

In exchange for NOT possibly triggering a world war with a wider response, Biden authorized some more killruns they wanted to do against the defenseless

Israel's alliance is all begging them not to RoR. They worry an RoR means war. But there's no sign they will remove Israel from the alliance, and whoever is running the Israel country may not be rational.

Israel blew up Iran's consulate in Syria and killed two top military officials.
Iran retaliated with missiles and drones targeting some military bases

Will Israel RoR? What is Iran's policy on RoRs?

“Best of strat” I think is better than those “best commie net” etc ones but i wasn’t trying to argue we shouldn’t have the other ones, just that BoS could be included on the leaderboard

I lied and will tech instead

I'm going to cash if i play it.

#1 this is why the new leaderboard should have a 'best of strat' tracker, so even if you went casher you can still grab a point for the leaderboards if you have the best casher
#2 This past set was a 'gg no re' to you? but uhh, your commie scored 72m and won... maybe it was 'gg no re' for a casher, and farmer still doesn't seem that great

Good for sellers. I wonder how things react when buyers can see others’ SOs and bid against each other.

You could still put in an SO for more units than you can afford to sucker in a seller.

1 l o w p r o f i l e (#54) Game profile 61,644 $72,398,607 CG
2 only tomorrow (#47) Game profile 19,522 $71,172,010 DG
3 Tmac (#35) Game profile 56,478 $67,610,141 CG
4 s (#92) Game profile 21,140 $64,355,339 DG
5 m a j u l a h s i n g a p u r a (#44) Game profile 48,765 $54,518,796 HG
6 wow i got cristiano ronaldo (#7) Game profile 47,003 $52,292,783 CG
7 IPW to the MOON (#48) Game profile 47,786 $43,988,450 HG
8 Flatman and Ribbon (#95) Game profile 25,543 $38,076,020 RG
9 amazon reviews for sale (#53) Game profile 15,418 $30,342,363 DG
10 J MAX (#13) Game profile 37,671 $29,506,835 HG

Who’s job is it to post this? You’re dropping the ball!

Gj edging me out Gerdler. That last day was a huge reversal of fortune with military going from steaming trash to insane high prices with all the big players jumping. Cost me quite a bit.

I’ll take the under :]

Curious how you even got caught. Are all our msgs being monitored? :O

I can tell you the rules if you wanna know. The purpose of the intel alliance is this:
An intelligence alliance brings together the strength of each member's intelligence agencies in both engaging in and protecting from spy operations.

The purpose of the defense alliance is this:
A defensive alliance builds a solid foundation to protect each of the partners. Any time you are attacked, 25% of of your allies' forces will come to assist in your defense. However, Your total battle strength cannot be more than doubled through allies, so having allies at your strength is most beneficial in the long run.

That's really all those are for (and to get people chatting and making friends). Even when you have those alliances, you can't coordinate your activities or share any intel that takes a turn to provide, since it's not a teams server.

Gerdler is selling techer hard so I guess he really is going something else and it's not a feint! I'll take whatever none of Rob Tmac NiteL Slag or Gerdler is doing... uh oh i might be MBRing if i hold to that

Commie takes a lot of attention down the stretch so I'm picking something else this set, if anyone else wants to claim the commie lane! Is there anything nobody is doing? Interesting from last reset to see what military prices are with only one commie bigger than a bot, and only one farmer bigger than a bot. Neither prices really got too crazy.

Average turret prices according to eestats, showing last round in parentheses and positioned within the other previous 10:

128 135 (136) 137 138 144 146 149 158 152 180

Thanks yall, the extra 180 turns probably helped 😂

Nice score with a casher by tmac also! Gerd a Best of Strat counter would help recognize your achievement as top techer. It’s a good idea for a scoreboard I swear

There's lots of things that shouldn't be allowed on the forum in order to make it a more inviting place, things like hate speech, death wishes, and so on. Otoh you do have to be judicial with when to punish because people will quit if they feel like they're being trampled on with bans/suspensions and can't share their perspective.

Tech is viable if there’s very few techers. In that case tech start is also ideal and it’s always the safe choice. It all depends on the market though... too many techers and being a techer stinks, and tech starting isn’t really necessary.

I had a crazy idea that players could be allowed to toggle their round by up to 12 hours, so that different countries would run out of turns at different times. It would be weird but it did make me go hmm.

Is cross server griefing not one of the explicitly listed reasons for applying military sanctions??

I feel like the cash gain was basically halved because oil was $350 at that time... plus 700k jets lost, and the costs of rebuilding and defense losses on my retal, so ultimately it was only a gain at all as a topfeed with net acre gain. But yes topfeeds do pay sometimes.