You're dead

oh what did i miss

some chems fired by some dude in our clan

btw you shouldnt judge a whole clan because some dude did a bad thing (do not have every info on why he did it though)

so it's standard to do 4:1 retal and fire missiles, and diffuse missiles?

Nope, more like something a newbie reacts to a Landgrab.

You should get major reps for what was done to you (Dunno who the owner is myself though at the moment).

Funny. You used to fluff at me for making posts like this. I'll tell you what you told me.

I sent you a PM.

FFA is boring now, everyone is friends and hugging trees, go back to the old days of farming each other, old fashion oil buyouts, and multies...haha :D

Stockpile stealing is a no-no.


That is all.

/pulls a bit back on the leech

-sit Crippler… sit-

Greg knows where to find me.

wasnt it only one missle and all failed spy ops?

ESD*

Its the princible ss

You're absolutely right. It's the principle. Couldn't have said it better myself.

i heard cripplers side of the story, id love to hear ESDs but i think cripplers was pretty much the same as yours will be and im gonna say you guys are wrong.

Saint! Whutzup? Throw it out here...

I think if you grab someone with 2 weeks left in the set and liberate them of $2 Billion in cash, that's stockpile stealing.

Your definition may vary. My definition is the one that's pertinent in this case.

^^

I think when the grabbing country has 20bil on hand that makes your puney 2bil stock stealing point mute

I think it's irrelevant how much money the grabbing country has.

well not really, cause if he had 0 cash then you wouldn't being saying it was stock stealing but yeah just cause he has a lot doesn't make it any better.

I'm just saying that with 2 weeks to go in a reset, it's not land I assume someone is looking for if they're still grabbing.

And based on that assessment, our Retal Rules change. Especially when it's a one man tag. We've been "nice guys" far too many times where a player will farm or top feed us and then self-delete or some such thing.

Did I know it was Crippy? No. Ad why didn't I know? Because he didn't tell anyone he was running one country under the xICDx tag. Which is even ore unusual because he's also running countries in CC unless I'm mistaken.

AT any rate, all - I - know is that some dude tagged xICDx (like this would be the first time someone spoofed a tag) stock steals off of one of my guys.

Would it make a difference if I knew it was Crippy? Not a lot. However, I would have sent him a PM telling him what we were doing and why. Or maybe I wouldn't have.

We've been fluffed over SO may times by people and have bent over backwards trying to explain why we have responded like we did that it's obvious that 99% of the occurrences are just because someone wants to be an asshole.

We don't grab anyone, we don't war anyone, we don't (and I'm really the only one that ever DID)come on here and talk fluff on people, and the truth is that if you grab a stockpiling ESD country with less than 3 weeks to go in the set, we are going to sit on you.

End of discussion.

I agree with this. Topfeeding/stock hunting in last month of set is lame.

the argument could be made that more land=more time to stock/destock. Just because you or I decide to use resource decay and have that much on hand should be irrelevant as well, we're saving a lot more then $2bil with no decay and no taxes/lost money due to stocking.

I think your missing the point i hit the target with = nw and least cash

Maybe if im being accused of stock hunting i should actually do it

And on hand cash is relavant

The 20 bil i had on hand wag going to cover the stock he lost + net him a bil or so
. Thats how conciderate i was being when choosing a target

Greg. Hitting with least cash doesn't mean someone isn't stock hunting. In fact, equal NW would maximize stock hunting.

I'd also like to ask.. Why didn't you hit PANLV? Or TKO? or KSM?


I doubt it's because with your one country, you spied out 3 dozen countries between our 4 clans.

What I think is that you decided it was a good idea to find an easy ESD pushover target and raid their stockpile. It was a bad idea. And you paid for it.

Not true u still owe me 9k land and 7bil cash

No Greg, we do not owe you 9K land and 7bil cash. You did something you should not have, and you paid for it. End of discussion.

So start your kill run, get your buddies to help you, hate me forever, or whatever it is you're gonna do.

You owe ME an apology for (yet again) taking advantage of a friend.

Yeah ill get right on killing eith my 1 demo country

YOU started the thread with "you're dead". Not me. I assume that means you might carry a grudge. Best idea is just to not stock steal a country with less than 3 weeks left in the set.

I don't like threats any more than you do. But if you're gonna make them, you might not want to do so with one country. I can give you my personal country numbers if you like and you can choose the one you want to hurt the most.

I'll even drop defenses on it so your Demo has a shot at really doing damage. Then I will kill you. That gives you some misguided payback. I only offer THAT because I think of you as a friend.

ESD will NOT be robbed when Stockpile Time comes. Period.

I havent stolen stock sorry

You DID steal stock. Sorry.

And now you know that if you come knocking at ESD's door with less than 3 weeks left in the set, you will be treated unkindly.

Sad thing is that if you asked me to FA you a couple billion in cash as a friend, I would have done it in a heartbeat.

Don't fluff your friends.

You can treat me as unkindly as you would like aslong as its justified.. This is not one of those cases

It WAS justified. You were stealing stock and there is nothing you can say to change my opinion.

Like I said. Your best move is to not grab an ESD country if there's less than 3 weeks left to the end of the set.

I'm doing my best to define what ESD will decide to be stock stealing. That way, should you decide to do it again, I won't have a problem making the call to kill you. Which I would do personally, btw.

Now do we need to keep puffing chests, or can we just end this convo agreeing to disagree? Up to you.

Why would i ask you to fa me cash when i wasnt looking for any. I made a mutualy benifcial LAND grab and u took advantage of me being a 1man tag

I already said I would send you the "exess" cash I took while I was taking it, and the offer still stands, after your msg to me inquiring into my intelligence. YOU never responded, and still haven't. As far as mutually benificial that would be plausible if I knew about it first, I probably would have land traded with a few of mine if ya wanted. as far as my response to your grab. Sorry it happened to be you but you can only walk past strangers and be punched so many times before you hospitalize the next one.

*eats popcorn*

You have NOTHING to apologize for, SS and you had MY permission to do what you did and the last time I checked, the permission came from where the buck stopped.

As a member of ESD, I will not tolerate you being taken advantage of or will I tolerate you being demeaned or insulted. Period.

This is not YOUR problem. It is someone else's.

To reiterate...... - I - authorized every and any attack against an obvious stock steal including participating in a kill run against the offending country to assist my member and in order to reinforce the fact that ESD will not be taken advantage of late set.

It's silly that we're even discussing this. Ay other clan would have farmed/killed such a hit without question.

*smacks popcorn bowl*

THAT'S MY LINE

I never responded for a few reasons.1 u never sent pacts and 2 obviously your leader and i are still far apart on this

yeah. I wouldn't send pacts without a response ,if your next intentions were more hostile they would be nothing but free spy ops.

You have mail. And yes. Their Leader and you are still far apart on this.

Hey!!!!

I FUK YOU LIKE A SAM BOH DEE!!!!

promise?

I FUK YOU MUDDA I FUK YOU WHOLE FAMILY!!!!

^I like the translation below^

now that things have settled down a bit I'll put in my 2 cents worth. The whole matter was bush league, The grab was bush league, the reaction was bush league, the posts on the boards and FA was bush league. I expect better from everyone.