Nobody has denied the USA having a higher murder rate, I even conceded that, because it is true. I dont think that anybody on this forum would argue that if drug laws were loosened or legalized those murder rates would drop, especially in the cities.

As for my stats I found them from

http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/...s-most-violent-crime.html

this was sourced as UN/EU commission data. Figured they were legit numbers.


the findings were back up with this, not exactly the same numbers but the same outcomes. http://www.civitas.org.uk/...ime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf

also supported by the following
http://www.nationmaster.com/...u_off-crime-drug-offences



while all of those sources compare data from different years and sources, they all yield the same conclusion, that while the USA does have more deaths as a result of gun, they have much lower overall violent crime rate than its peers.

simply taking away guns, as those other countries have done, will not stop the crime or the killings that these mentally unstable people commit.