Jan 26th 2013, 0:37:38
Originally posted by locket:
The only stats on anything involving murder that I found on a site that seemed legit and without a goal to manipulate you one way or the other definitely showed the USA with much higher rates than GB/Canada/Western world. Pointless argument anyways though.
Nobody has denied the USA having a higher murder rate, I even conceded that, because it is true. I dont think that anybody on this forum would argue that if drug laws were loosened or legalized those murder rates would drop, especially in the cities.
And PP.
While I did fall for the baseball bat stats without checking them. Which is my error. The rest of the stats were checked and as far as I am aware, confirmed by multiple sources.
That said, while checking through the FBI site to check numbers "Assault rifles" are being unfairly attacked.
2009 according to the FBI there were 13,636 murders. Guns were used to kill 9,146 people. Hands and feet were used to kill 801 people. "Other weapons" were used to murder 611 people. Rifles (ALL rifles) were used to murder 348 people. The FBI does not distinguish between regular hunting and "assault style" rifles, So if fair to assume that assault rifles are even lower than the 348 people. In 2009, there were nine states that did not have a single murder committed with any rifle. Yet the "assault rifle" continuously gets brought up every time a weapons ban/weapons control legislation is mentioned.
not to mention all overall violent crime and murder has dropped for every year the last 6 years
PER FBI website.
As for my other stats I found them from
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/...s-most-violent-crime.html
this was sourced as UN/EU commission data. Figured they were legit numbers.
the findings were back up with this, not exactly the same numbers but the same outcomes. http://www.civitas.org.uk/...ime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf
also supported by the following
http://www.nationmaster.com/...u_off-crime-drug-offences
while all of those sources compare data from different years and sources, they all yield the same conclusion, that while the USA does have more deaths as a result of gun, they have much lower overall violent crime rate than its peers.
simply taking away guns, as those other countries have done, will not stop the crime or the killings that these mentally unstable people commit.
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis