A space probe landed on a comet - Earth Empires Forum

Marshal

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Nov 14th 2014, 16:36:04

why should we?

Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

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VicRattlehead

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Nov 14th 2014, 16:39:17

Always there used to be threads about stuff like this, frequently with actual intelligent commentary. :(

Getafix

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Nov 14th 2014, 16:48:19

I've been posting updates on Rosetta for about a year nowover on the Express board.. :( so ignored

Anyway, I now understand its actually an alien spacecraft sending strange screaming electromagnetic signals.

mrford

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Nov 14th 2014, 17:04:16

Did anything on the probe even work as intended?

From what I have skimmed 3 of the landing arresting systems failed and the fluff bounced a hundred meters or more, and now the batteries are going to die at any moment.

Edited By: mrford on Nov 14th 2014, 19:13:30

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VicRattlehead

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Nov 14th 2014, 17:16:42

Getafix - I only scan ET, I don't play express, and AT is traditionally the "everything" board that General Talk is supposed to be.

ford - first try, and they got there. Pretty amazing even if it didn't go as planned. "No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy."

mrford

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Nov 14th 2014, 18:51:25

That is a very weak measure of success since their goal wasn't to just land.

It is cool and everything and the logistics are impressive, but they havnt yet accomplished their goals.

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Nov 14th 2014, 19:06:00

No problem VicRattlehead, I was just joking.

Anyway, yes, this is one of the few things in the news that gives me hope. Its a remarkable mission and a great achievement getting to the surface of the comet at all.

VicRattlehead

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Nov 14th 2014, 19:25:27

Originally posted by mrford:

That is a very weak measure of success since their goal wasn't to just land.

It is cool and everything and the logistics are impressive, but they havnt yet accomplished their goals.

The Wright brothers didn't make a transcontinental flight on their first go round either. Nothing is accomplished all at once. Everything takes incremental progress.

mrford

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Nov 14th 2014, 19:32:12

What are you even talking about? The wright brothers goal wasn't a transcontinental flight.

Stop overreacting. I asked if anything worked as intented because multiple systems failed during the landing and it has effected the mission profile.

I said it was impressive feat, but not yet a success and completing the original mission seems a longshot now.. That is not a false statment.

Edited By: mrford on Nov 14th 2014, 19:35:29

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Trife

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Nov 14th 2014, 19:43:13

pfft, it's stupid to waste taxpayer money on stupid pointless useless space stuff.

what good ever came from space stuff i ask!

so stupid!

thanks obama

mrford

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Nov 14th 2014, 19:44:02

This was Europe's money so it's cool

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

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Nov 14th 2014, 20:07:49

Europe's money is basically America's money anyway....

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Marshal

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:13:50

Originally posted by mrford:

they have gotten quite a much information and doubt its gonna completely die since it gets some sun.

braden

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:32:16

Originally posted by Trife:

pfft, it's stupid to waste taxpayer money on stupid pointless useless space stuff.

what good ever came from space stuff i ask!

so stupid!

thanks obama

velcro? we'll accept your apology. and credit there is to a socialist catholic who was told to hate bolshevism before a bullet ended his fourteen years as csdotus (catholic socialist democrat otus)

braden

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:35:07

also barrys a kenyan mooslim and his wife a seventies actress most famous from her role as dr zeus' wife

Heston

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:37:09

Lol

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Heston

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:37:49

Originally posted by Trife:

pfft, it's stupid to waste taxpayer money on stupid pointless useless space stuff.

what good ever came from space stuff i ask!

so stupid!

thanks obama

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Marshal

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:49:38

Originally posted by Trife:

pfft, it's stupid to waste taxpayer money on stupid pointless useless space stuff.

what good ever came from space stuff i ask!

roswell aliens. :P

braden

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:50:41

he asked good. roswell aliens are just as bad as south americans

Trife

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Nov 14th 2014, 21:52:43

Originally posted by braden:

Originally posted by Trife:

pfft, it's stupid to waste taxpayer money on stupid pointless useless space stuff.

what good ever came from space stuff i ask!

so stupid!

thanks obama

velcro? we'll accept your apology. and credit there is to a socialist catholic who was told to hate bolshevism before a bullet ended his fourteen years as csdotus (catholic socialist democrat otus)

http://earthempires.com/...xplode-33811?t=1414966721

i was poking fun at dat, bae

mrford

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Nov 14th 2014, 22:19:17

Originally posted by Marshal:

Originally posted by mrford:

they have gotten quite a much information and doubt its gonna completely die since it gets some sun.

That is the problem. It didn't land where it was intended to and they believe it is in a shadow, greatly reducing avaliable power through the solar cells. A few Mars rovers had similar problems caused by fine dust covering the solar cells almost killing the rovers. I believe a wind storm helped in that instance. Maybe the comet's rotation will allow limited sunlight during brief windows, but it is pretty clear full power is not a likely scenario.

You people need to read better. I didn't say the mission was worthless, I even admitted it impressive logistically.

My point is that there were numerous malfunctions that very well could doom the mission preventing it from attaining the stated goals of drilling, analyzing samples, and returning that info back to earth.

Edited By: mrford on Nov 14th 2014, 22:22:41

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

braden

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Nov 14th 2014, 22:23:45

ford: your first clue might have been the three words quite a much?

just putting it on the table.

Riddler

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Nov 15th 2014, 1:30:39

it's a hoax just like Armstrong walking on the moon,it was all done in Hollywood

Trife

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Nov 15th 2014, 5:21:33

Originally posted by Riddler:

it's a hoax just like Armstrong walking on the moon,it was all done in Hollywood

don't tell that to buzz aldrin

Marshal

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Nov 15th 2014, 11:38:17

Originally posted by braden:

he asked good. roswell aliens are just as bad as south americans

whattabout superman and martian manhunter?

braden

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Nov 15th 2014, 12:41:01

superman landed in kansas not new mehico

BladeEWG

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Nov 15th 2014, 14:58:48

Hopefully they can get it to shift and bounce a few more times . Maybe those little thrusters it has will be enuf

The fact that it hit the comet after a 10 year mission is incredible in itself. The limited info it sent back is a major bonus in my eyes

Can you imagine how cool it would be if they had sent another off every year?
Course the cost would be crazy...but very very cool to get something back every year from other comets

VicRattlehead

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Nov 15th 2014, 15:11:48

Hmm, I don't know how many comets we need to land on. I think the whole thing is awesome, and I am glad they did it, but I am more excited about stuff like this. http://www.theregister.co.uk/...on_landing_2017_moonbase/

Is it feasible at the current levels of tech? I don't know, but it's the sort of thing I think needs to be tried.

mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 15:14:45

The theory is that life was brought to earth via comet. The matter under the surface of the comet we landed on is virtually unchanged for 4.5 billion years. Could give us answers.

So yeah, if you want to know where we came from or get an answer to that theory, land on comets.

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VicRattlehead

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Nov 15th 2014, 15:26:00

I'm more interested in where we're going. :)

mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 15:39:21

Hard to know where you are going if you don't know where you are from.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

BladeEWG

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Nov 15th 2014, 15:59:13

And what's with this about all the water on earth originated from comets?
I can't get my head around that at all

mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:11:43

Ice comets crashing into a developing earth over billions of years. Not that advanced of a concept!

The problem most people have is the concept of time on a scale that big. It isn't a natural frame of thought.

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

aponic

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:46:40

Nice topic choice Vic -- miss these threads

SOF
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VicRattlehead

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:49:17

Originally posted by aponic:

Nice topic choice Vic -- miss these threads

Me too. :)

I am not familiar with the theory that all the water on earth came from ice comets. Seems far fetched. Other planets should have similar amounts of water if that's the case, and we can say for sure that Mars does not have oceans.

VicRattlehead

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:54:31

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news008.html

CalTech scientist says water content of comets is chemically dissimilar from the water on Earth.

OTOH, this piece seems to take it for granted that comets and/or asteroids brought us all the water.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/...to-earth-72037248/?no-ist

tellarion

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:55:33

This is cool too:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/...8/edge_lohan_test_flight/

3d Printed rocket heading to space soon :)

tellarion

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:57:30

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:

Originally posted by aponic:

Nice topic choice Vic -- miss these threads

Most people believe that it DID have oceans though. Considering the age of the universe, it's not far fetched to imagine that many more worlds used to have water, but no longer do for various reasons.

I think one of the most interesting things they discover as technology advances is that the likelihood of finding earth-like worlds is much much higher than most people guessed/assumed. That's pretty amazing :)

mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 16:59:46

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:

Originally posted by aponic:

Nice topic choice Vic -- miss these threads

That isn't how it works, and Mars did have running water before it's core died and atmosphere dissapated. Earth is the only planet in our solar system with the right temperature/pressure/gravity/atmosphere combination for liquid water. That doesn't mean other planets don't have water. They do.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

tellarion

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Nov 15th 2014, 17:26:31

To add to that, they've found liquid oceans on Europa and Titan, and potentially? on Enceladus.

mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 17:28:31

Liquid oceans of other elements, but yeah. I think Europa is liquid methane? I know one of them moons was.

Like when Mars lost its atmosphere, it's liquid water either froze aat the poles, or dissapated. No pressure to keep it from floating away.

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mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 17:31:04

My bad, europa is actually liquid water kept liquid by the heat caused by gravitational forces and pressure. Must of been some other celestial body I'm thinking of

Edit. Titian is it.

Edited By: mrford on Nov 15th 2014, 17:47:09
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VicRattlehead

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Nov 15th 2014, 19:05:49

Originally posted by tellarion:

This is cool too:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/...8/edge_lohan_test_flight/

3d Printed rocket heading to space soon :)

That is pretty cool. :)

I didn't mean to imply that Mars doesn't have water, it was kind of a big deal when we confirmed some ice some years back I remember. My point was more about geography. Mars clearly had more water at one point but the surface topography doesn't seem to indicate they had oceans.

http://www.nasa.gov/...ia15094.html#.VGejZPnF9qU

I admit that I am not as up to speed on stuff like this as I used to be and am open to being shown more accurate/up to date info.

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Nov 15th 2014, 19:24:03

bonus

mrford

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Nov 15th 2014, 20:00:44

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:

Originally posted by tellarion:

This is cool too:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/...8/edge_lohan_test_flight/

3d Printed rocket heading to space soon :)

Topography? What do you think the earth would look like without its oceans? Oceans arnt flat bottomed bro. In addition, Mars is a smaller planet, less gravity to attracattract comets and such.

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Nov 15th 2014, 20:11:03

Danger Space Robot Danger!!!

meh. goofy robot bounces off comet once then successfully lands only to end up starving to death because there is no sunshine.

Dibs Ludicrous was here.