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NightShade

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Nov 16th 2012, 8:20:02

I don't know... getting the fluff missiled out of your countries for no apparent reason is something that kind of puts me off. Normally, if you did something to deserve it, that's one thing... but having hit no one but your own countries, and have your set ruined? that's just fluffed.

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Originally posted by Bsnake:

I was sitting there wondering how many I could kill with one set of chopsticks

NightShade

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Nov 16th 2012, 8:27:42

It used to be if you got hit... you made an attempt to retal, and if you bounced the hit, that was all she wrote. Then someone decided to come up with land:land retals, we all know how that faired.

Then, there was farming untaggeds without reprieve, and people started getting suicided. That lead to people self-farming so they don't get some overzealous asshole who spent his set stockpiling missiles waiting for anything... like a browser freezing, that person refreshing a few times and discovering that their one grab turned into four... and then having their country missiled into oblivion for it. When it would have been far easier to hit the person while their forces were completely PS'ed out to get their land back.

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Originally posted by Bsnake:

I was sitting there wondering how many I could kill with one set of chopsticks

Red X

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Nov 16th 2012, 14:22:55

there is a thing called SDI

just sayin

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llaar

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Nov 16th 2012, 14:23:29

Marshal

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Nov 16th 2012, 20:39:47

when you have sdi and don't get missiled you say it was waste of time and money but when you don't have sdi you curse why didn't you buy sdi when you get missiled.

Edited By: Marshal on Nov 16th 2012, 23:01:48
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kemo

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Nov 16th 2012, 21:23:27

damn that adi

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Rockman

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Nov 16th 2012, 22:22:03

Originally posted by Marshal:

when you have sdi and don't get missiled you say it was waste of time and money but when you don't have adi you curse why didn't you buy sdi when you get missiled.

And when you have 100k acres, SDI is extremely costly to purchase.

Dragon

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Nov 16th 2012, 22:49:51

This really isn't about undefended acres or not enough SDI. It's simply about people who like to ruin other peoples' fun and are allowed to do it.

Marshal

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Nov 16th 2012, 23:02:26

there's no win, only lose, either cash wasted on sdi and no attacks or cash not wasted on sdi and gets attacked.

Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 1:04:43

its a game of attack and defend.... Just cause netters "enjoy" enjoy it more by making large countries other people have fun attacking..

There are no real rules on this apart from what is kind of agreed on these boards, nothing in the rules say you cant use harmfull ops or missiles etc..

So you either defend your land or there is a chance you will loose it one way or another, it has been like that since we all started playing

netters get the fluffs when it happens and cry about leaving, when theres no war killers leave cause its boring..

simple fix is make 2 servers, one netting, one killing put the rules in place and everyone is happy... pie in the sky... maybe..

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Tin Man

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Nov 17th 2012, 1:46:15

I also ran with 3 troops all set long to maximize GA, and fluff SDI, that's only for war

Crippler ICD

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Nov 17th 2012, 1:54:38

pfft that wouldnt work for someone awesome like me who can do both :P

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Rockman

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Nov 17th 2012, 2:33:32

Originally posted by Bsnake:

The killers can kill each other, rather than being douchebags out of boredom.

Havoc

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Nov 17th 2012, 3:52:42

who got hit?

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NightShade

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Nov 17th 2012, 5:02:46

I am not saying llaar did it, but I had a 40k country missiled down to 17k acres for what was supposed to be a single grab (turned into four because of a frozen browser and three refreshes), and after apologizing for the mistake I got missiled from 25k to 10k, the offending countries were killed and I self-traded to make up for lost land, got up to 40,606 acres and within 24 hours country was sitting at 17,112 acres, with a message from the same prick left telling me he wasn't going to stop until that country was dead. He got killed again, however with how late it is in the set, I decided not to rebuild a 17.2k acre parking lot just to have it missiled into the dirt a third time.

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Originally posted by Bsnake:

I was sitting there wondering how many I could kill with one set of chopsticks

Marshal

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Nov 17th 2012, 11:41:06

2 servers 1 for war and 1 for netting would bore both netters and warrers, if netters can run their countries with minimal def (non-existant) then that would hurt commies and netters could become bored due nothing happens, don't know many warmongers (besides those at imag but they are nutcakes) who want to war every set since it could take its toll after few sets, besides who would produce jets etc for warmongers if whole server would be in war (shared market could work).

MUFASA JACKSON

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Nov 17th 2012, 11:49:03

Originally posted by Tin Man:

I also ran with 3 troops all set long to maximize GA, and fluff SDI, that's only for war

You go man! Ten foot tall and bulletproof! Hoo-Rah Mother fluffas!
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Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 16:44:47

thats my point... u need both....or the server dies....

when it bites u it sux... but u need it..

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 16:57:43

But what NOBODY needs is some asshat just out to fluff people's fun up for his own amusement.

Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 16:58:59

come on dragon its always been the way....

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:01:12

Originally posted by Bsnake:

come on dragon its always been the way....

That don't make it right, Pat.

Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:01:25

netters always get fluffed over... its how it works when u care about ur countries... some sets you get away with it... sometimes u dont...

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:03:52

Originally posted by Bsnake:

netters always get fluffed over... its how it works when u care about ur countries... some sets you get away with it... sometimes u dont...

So as the netters quit playing, that's good for the game in what way?

Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:07:25

as i said in other posts... its the way the game has always been...

its a game of 2 halves... sometimes ur on the good side others not so...

im not trying to justify anything...just how it is...as a netter im sure it sucks to loose countries.... as a killer i expect it...

is my way of playing any less important??? we both play and know the risks...

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:09:01

And ya know,looking back thru FFA history, "netting clans" like TSE farmed the fluff out of other clans, and I "get" why someone might have suicided on them or eded up in wars.

Then take a clan like ESD. Who doesn't fluff with ANYONE. Who doesn't even GRAB anyone let alone far them. Who encourages new players to stick around and tries to be friendly with everyone. Just a bunch of guys trying to mind their own business and enjoy the game in their spare time.

It's bullfluff.

Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:14:32

yeah i hear what ur saying mate..but thats the game... hasnt and wont change...

there was a time when ESD was 30-60 countries and got left alone... now your the 3/4 biggest tag.... makes you a target...i dont think thats right either BTW

i started in small tags and it got my arse beat...turned me into a killer cause i learned that the game was BS...so i went fluff it... ill just kill fluff...

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

synoder

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Nov 17th 2012, 17:49:01

suiciders are always going to be part of the game but that doesn't mean you need to go bat crazy and defend them because they are your "friend" and threaten anyone who touches them. That makes you just as bad as the suicider. If my friends act like children and suicide on random people then I am sure as heck not going to defend their actions and in private I am going to make sure they know what a dbag they are being and if continues happening set after set then I will be first in line to kill them.

Bsnake

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Nov 17th 2012, 18:07:55

llar and TKO have history...not just this set.. and they have killed him alot...

i told him to pull his head in, but im not going to just let him die.. but he did get killed and that was the end of it..

i was the first to try and get it fixed and try and sort out the reps....

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 18:17:34

llar and ESD had NO history. Other than he's been a fluff to us on more than one occasion without provocation so....

I could easily just join a clan like NBK and make it my mission for eternity to sit on assholes that screw with people who dont deserve it, and if I had more time, I probably would.

synoder

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Nov 17th 2012, 18:25:09

its one thing to try and get it fixed and sort out reps which is great but its another thing to say that you are going to war anyone who kills the suicider because he was your friend. Especially when it was your tag that made him suicide cause you started killing him. lol Not only should you have let him die but you should have joined in.

When a leader of your tag and a veteran member both make threads saying you will be killing a suicider because he messed with cc then all of a sudden that suicider goes and hits netters and you find out it is your friend you pull a 180 and let him tag cc and defend him thats pretty messed up and makes you look terrible.

Marshal

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Nov 17th 2012, 18:42:06

many of you remember bot runners (alliance and ffa) with alot countries who could kill big part of alliance on their fs.

Tin Man

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Nov 17th 2012, 19:11:36

IF I wasnt the lowest defended player in the clan I wouldn't have been hit as bad as I was.

*NOTE* This does not apply to Mufasa/Saint who have been hit a lot in the past with a lot less juicy countries and a LOT more defense =/

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 19:14:36

Originally posted by Tin Man:

IF I wasnt the lowest defended player in the clan I wouldn't have been hit as bad as I was.

You're right. BUT, he decided to come back and do it again AFTER retals.

That's not grabbing easy targets. That's being a fluffing asshole.

Tin Man

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Nov 17th 2012, 19:18:50

Oh, and for the whole of the community was wondering, ESD is pretty much free land as it is. We don't do L:L and are not going to be desuchebags over a few Land Grabs.(Even to untaggeds as long as it's not excessive, and even if it is we try our best to contact the offending countries and offer a uNAP if they tag up)

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 19:36:11

WE bend over backwards. Apparently, that's part of our problem.

MUFASA JACKSON

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Nov 17th 2012, 19:41:46

fluff dat!
I join a "respected" clan in order to not be hit/ be hit less! Retals,threats and fear should be tools used when initial knowlwdge and/or civil communication ain't no working. When "Thought & Talk" don't work "Shock & Awe" helps.

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Marshal

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Nov 17th 2012, 19:55:50

if you want to feel to be safe then join biggest alliance but even that won't guarantee anything.

MUFASA JACKSON

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Nov 17th 2012, 20:02:15

Of course, but if the clan is willing to defend ya and "make it right or fight" then the clan has served it's purpose. You may also get yer ass chewed+ in-clan for your actions but they're there fot ya, Ya know? Like a virtual gang!

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Marshal

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Nov 17th 2012, 21:16:36

i know.

Dragon

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Nov 17th 2012, 21:27:50

Joining the "biggest alliance" doesn't ensure safety. All THAT does is put a bullseye on your back for some pissed off suicider to punish your clan with.

It's like the old joke about the man eating bear. I don't have to run fast. I just have to run faster than YOU.

Bigwiggle

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Nov 18th 2012, 16:04:28

Llaar has history with the whole server .. he freaked out a few sets ago and made a similar grabbing spree. Whatever keeps it interesting I guess. Pan lost a cool 200k acres this time as well

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Tin Man

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Nov 20th 2012, 1:16:11

damn, I just realized why this should piss everyone off... llaar is NOTORIOUS for massive self-farming/farming other clanmates.

why are you being so lame man?

Warster

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Nov 20th 2012, 3:48:13

Originally posted by Bsnake:

Wrong bsnake, the only reset we killed a lot of llaar's countries was last reset and that only because he declared war , he made a post asking for a ceasefire which wasn't granted as I asked him to message me and he didn't once reply to me during the whole reset.

The other 2 times we didnt kill all his countries, other people did most of it.

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Cerberus

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Nov 24th 2012, 19:39:42

That self=farming was tried before in the alliance game back in the day, and everyone hated them for it since they would not allow anyone else to hit them. Anyone remember TGA?

I don't need anger management, people need to stop pissing me off!

Marshal

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Nov 24th 2012, 20:24:59

i know tga but that was before my time.

rd "self-farmed" in OLD alliance but they got away of it due well known reasons.