yup, we like to start random fights without provocation and from the looks of it we can still kill :P (although you've been inactive and we lemmed quite a big and had some def helds here and there; also, we messed up with a nuke/cruise target or two)

but, we at IMP had a blast :)

btw, that nuke/cruise fiasco, that was prime.

and then we had an impatient uj with others trying to catch up...funny as hell tho lol

No it was rico... no wait prime... no wait rico...

confirmed it was a blast

We FSed you Rockman because your an Arsehole

+100


total win

When TA picked a fight with SAS, I came to SAS's aid. IMP sat on their hands and did nothing.

When USIMP and SoF picked a fight with f3ar, I came to f3ar's aid. IMP sad on their hands and did nothing.

When LGyou decided to join the war against NBK, I helped kill them off, and IMP sat on their hands and did nothing.

Quite clearly, my entire goal this set was to rid the server of suiciders. And to IMP, that makes me an asshole.

Really? You love and cherish suiciders that much, that you found my killing of suiciders to be so objectionable that I must die?

Rockman... FS THEM

rockman...cause u scuk ...you deserved it :P

Oh, so is this about me killing off a couple of tags who were trying to bring land:land to FFA? I didn't know IMP was in favor of land:land. I guess its because they saw me with a bunch of tyrannies with maxed military strategy tech that weren't growing at all.

USIMP are allies of IMP.

TA and SAS aren't our problems. They don't have pacts with IMP.

Proper channels of diplomacy weren't taken by you when taking out USIMP. If you want to hit an ally, you get our blessing first, capiche?

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Rockman
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Posts: 3,115 Mar 4th 2013, 12:53:58

You're lucky I don't do cross server retals. You belong with an alliance like IMP. They'd love people like you who start wars with random countries without provocation. They might even teach you how to not lose a war to a country that's been inactive for three weeks.
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So you're defending USIMP's policies? Since when did you oppose 1:1 retals?

Do you dispute my accusation that you like starting wars with random countries without provocation?

Or do you not like that I'm helping you recruit?

I'm defending an ally from your hasty execution, yes. Was USIMP in the right? Perhaps not, but does two wrongs make a right? Absolutely not.

Starting wars with random countries without provocation? I should have added the <sarcasm> to my first post. People might not always agree with OUR reasons of why to get involved but we have them. :)

Defending an ally 11 days after they got tagkilled? Such a great ally you are.

Can anyone here say "we got hit by suiciders, and our ally IMP helped kill them"? Shocking as it may be, FSing someone in defense of your ally 11 days after they got tagkilled might be the most help you've ever given to an ally. It's shocking that ANYONE considers you to be friends.

Yeah well, USA didn't get involved in WWII right away either did they?

That's a great argument to make your allies happy to be allied to you. A one man tag helps tagkill our ally, and we wait 11 days after our ally has been tagkilled before we kill him.

I said it might be the most help you've ever given to an ally. Was I indeed correct with my guess (it was a guess, not an assertion)?

If my guess was correct, why should anyone ally you?

"Most help" is not easily quantified. That is for past, present, and future allies to consider and measure for themselves. If I were to do so I'd would feel as if I'm bragging :)

Present and future allies are their own keepers.

fail edit :P

I know why people ally you. But it appears that you aren't man enough to admit it.

It's not because of your "help" either.

Are you man enough to say it?

Yes, I am.

There's a reason why IMP never kills suiciders. Many people suspect that IMP players or friends of IMP players run suiciders that hit other alliances. Specifically, suiciders that target IMP's enemies. So people ally IMP, not because of IMP's help, but because they don't want to be hit by untagged suiciders that IMP, despite loving war so much, would never ever help kill.

You almost made me feel super special rockman. I thought it was something about ME that made people ally IMP :P However, I'll deny this along with Area 51, the drone attacks, and the 9/11 attacks.

Really, so you think its your "not easily quantified" help, which is best illustrated by you FSing a one man tag 11 days after he finished tagkilling your ally?

Without going into detail about the convos I had with Joeskin, you just don't know what was talked about and what was happening in the interim :)

Sorry Rockman, that's classified info that you are not privy to.

Rock, I like you bro :) If somebody hit you and we were allied I'd extend the hand of friendship just as I did to USIMP and to past allies even if it meant our death. Even if you are in the wrong, friends4ever. IMP4EVER bro.

As it happens though, you never reached out to us but used us as punchlines so I don't know why you are now trying to make us see your actions justly and ours fiendish(IMP pun). Kiss the hand of your new IMP don(LAF + IMP pun) and I will maybe reconsider your treachorous acts.

How did I use you as a punch line? I thought you took pride in how you war and kill randomly. I did not mean it as an insult, merely as a statement of fact. I told the guy he should join IMP, I did not try to discourage him from it.

Rockman
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Posts: 3,129 Mar 4th 2013, 12:53:58
You're lucky I don't do cross server retals. You belong with an alliance like IMP. They'd love people like you who start wars with random countries without provocation. They might even teach you how to not lose a war to a country that's been inactive for three weeks.

Let me quote "they might even teach you how to not lose a war to a country that's been inactive for three weeks" indicating subpar play form from IMP demeaning our stature in the game indirectly discouraging players to join us and ENCOURAGE people to hit us by making us look weak.

Now, this is your opinion Rockman. It is not a fact and like I said I should have added <sarcasm> to my first post stating we randomly start fights. I guess this too is in the eye of the beholder.

Anyhow, do we have an understanding now? Don't touch IMP's allies PLEASE without our blessing.

Actually, I was talking about Tuckleberry. He picked a fight with my def ally, and my def ally went inactive a couple weeks later. Then on the last day of the set, Tuckleberry messages me to brag about how he beat my def ally in a war, and I respond back telling him that my def ally hasn't played since February 7th and he still has more networth than you.

I wasn't criticizing your abilities, I was criticizing his abilities with a specific example where he would know exactly I was talking about.

I do not hit anyone without provocation, and you know that. What USIMP did to f3ar was sufficient provocation. If you insist on allying people that don't accept 1:1 retals, then I will continue to mess with your allies without your blessing. If you only ally people that accept 1:1 retals, then we will have no problem.

I do believe that IMP has been fairly vocal in the past about supporting/enforcing 1:1 retals. Surely you don't wish to flop sides here and object to me standing up for 1:1 retals on FFA.

The policy isn't our reason for backing USIMP. USIMP whether right or wrong has us as allies. Had you come to me, I would have talked to USIMP/Joeskin and maybe even offer reps or other forms of compensation from mine personally as I have done to others in the past.

The conflict was between them two and without exhausting diplomatic venues you jumped USIMP. That is a no in our book.

It was USIMP + SoF versus f3ar. That's a 2v1. Even after I jumped in, f3ar + me were outnumbered. The conflict was not between them two, it was a 2v1 with the 2 getting the FS.

rockman dont waste your time. the only good player that was left in IMP is sublime and hes over in TKO now.

yeah and he helped us get our fluff together :)

Right, he's a good player but I'm better. Plus, he's only over there for the war to kill cc lol :)

I score this debate as a win for Rockman

I beg to differ. I would see however where you could be swayed to give him the debate and that is this:

Rockman
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Posts: 3,137 Mar 5th 2013, 18:43:10
Actually, I was talking about Tuckleberry. He picked a fight with my def ally, and my def ally went inactive a couple weeks later. Then on the last day of the set, Tuckleberry messages me to brag about how he beat my def ally in a war, and I respond back telling him that my def ally hasn't played since February 7th and he still has more networth than you.

I wasn't criticizing your abilities, I was criticizing his abilities with a specific example where he would know exactly I was talking about.

I do not hit anyone without provocation, and you know that. What USIMP did to f3ar was sufficient provocation. If you insist on allying people that don't accept 1:1 retals, then I will continue to mess with your allies without your blessing. If you only ally people that accept 1:1 retals, then we will have no problem.

I do believe that IMP has been fairly vocal in the past about supporting/enforcing 1:1 retals. Surely you don't wish to flop sides here and object to me standing up for 1:1 retals on FFA.
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The section where Rockman tries to suave his way out of the predicament of using us as a punchline is good but let that not deter you from his original message "They might even teach you how to not lose a war to a country that's been inactive for three weeks".

Rockman's message there was clearly to defame IMP and our poor warring abilities insinuating we lose to inactives. This is an insult and is fuel to the fire.

Now, please acknowledge the fact that USIMP was a 1 man tag and nobody else was playing in there besides Joeskin. USIMP/Joeskin and SoF did NOT intentionally plan together to hit F3ar. F3ar dug himself/herself/themselves into a hole with BOTH clans. Those two clans took matters into their own hands in what they surveyed hostile.

Rockman, decided to be a hero and defend F3ar without USIMP ever in any written or ingame actions touching Mercs. Rockman just went into a thread and decided to investigate and enforce a policy on an ally of IMP. USIMP then had F3ar and Mercs on him. Leave SoF out because there is no coordinated or no proof of any coordinated attack between the two clans. This in itself allows USIMP to bring in IMP.

Now, let us establish what is sufficient provocation. In the matter between USIMP and Fear, USIMP BELIEVED F3ar was cheating them from their fully privileged retal by what is called dr'ing in the means of land trading/self farming. Was this indeed what happened? Maybe. Is it enough to kill over? Yes and there are precedents further supporting this and therefore establishing it as sufficient provocation on USIMP. Mercs, wasn’t directly involved in the hits and therefore had NO earthly right. Had Mercs rallied the community(since this seems to be a wide arm reaching amongst the clans issue) and as a group collectively decided USIMP was wrong perhaps things would have turned differently.

Moreover, Rockman assumed "He did hit USIMP one time this set, and you retalled, and then you apparently killed him because you didn't get all your land back in one hit.

So it looks like you're trying to force L:L retals on FFA? I can't see why f3ar deserves to be killed... ". Did Joeskin/USIMP ever confirm this? No. Did they confess? No.

As a third party who was not directly involved, you jumped the gun and hastily sentenced USIMP to death without any real evidence of his supposed enforcement of L:L. You did not contact IMP or any of USIMP’s allies to see if this was the case. You did not make any efforts to remedy this other than lethal actions. You sir, are guilty of being judge, jury, and executioner. This will not be tolerated and this is why you died Rockman.



P.S. I didn't proofread so reserve the right to edit as more evidence/and time to go over this statement is given.

I did not insinuate that you lose to inactives. In fact, I insinuated that you could teach that newb how to not lose to inactives, because he did in fact lose to an inactive in primary.

You want me to leave SoF out because f3ar dug themselves into a hole with SoF? Did you see SoF's justification for the FS? They FSd over failed non-harmful spy ops. And you're going to blame f3ar for being FSd by SoF? I made it a 2v2, where f3ar + me were still outnumbered, and both SoF and USIMP got FSs and were FSing with the flimsiest of provocations. So no, we're not leaving SoF out of this.

You're telling a flat out lie about USIMP and f3ar. Check the news on #161 and #163. f3ar never self-DRd or grabbed a country which grabbed USIMP.

USIMP had no reason at all to believe that f3ar "was cheating them from their fully privileged retal by what is called dr'ing in the means of land trading/self farming".

I wasn't directly involved in the hits, but neither were you. You've got no more right to interfere than I do. Except for the fact that my side is honorable and stands up to bullies and stands up for 1:1 retals, and your side is dishonorable, bullying, and can't handle 1:1 retals.

I sentenced USIMP to death because he was killing f3ar. I didn't care what his rationale was, he was killing f3ar over 2 landgrabs that were over 48 hours apart.

I am guilty of being the judge, jury, and executioner because I stand up to bullies. You, on the other hand, defend bullies two weeks after the bully gets tagkilled.

I'm honorable, and you're a lying dishonorable piece of crap. I did not initiate the killing, that was USIMP that initiated the killing. He was also playing judge, jury, and executioner. Not only that, but he doesn't accept 1:1 retals. So why do you tolerate him?

If you learn to stop lying, you might have a chance to actually win an argument for once.

rockman, you said MIGHT..."They MIGHT even teach you how to not lose a war to a country that's been inactive for three weeks". That's an insult bro.

USIMP has nothing to do with SoF. F3ar got himself into that hole with two clans. That's all on him. I'm not defending SoF in anything other than that they shouldn't be attributed to the cause of USIMP's death.

IMP is USIMP's ally. They asked for help and so we came in to handle you, a third party, who had no business in it unless you were their ally as to which then this is how the cards were drawn.

Keep trying to make your side honorable and just but over here in IMP we stand by our allies :) Right or wrong. :)

IMP4EVER!

Actually, I think that if one of your allies was ever in the right, you'd drop them for not being dishonorable enough for your standards.

So really, you stand by your allies, wrong or wrong.

Wow can you guys fluffing calm down with the walls of writing? This is FFA isn't it? nobody is supposed to be intelligent here. WTF.

yo em! bring back ninjas :)

If USIMP is referring to someone two-stepping, then here's the news that you need:

2013-02-16 19:41:25 PS 11100011100 (#169) f3ar 1010101010001111111100000000 (#159) f3ar 1493A (2000A)
2013-02-16 19:38:36 PS 1010101010001111111100000000 (#159) f3ar Server Admin is idiot (#2125) SOF 1534A (2256A)
2013-02-15 10:49:51 PS Server Admin is idiot (#2125) SOF 001 110 010 (#162) f3ar DH
2013-02-15 10:38:24 PS Server Admin is idiot (#2124) SOF 001 110 010 (#162) f3ar 921A (1383A)
2013-02-14 23:43:34 PS 001 110 010 (#162) f3ar RevX div of SOF (#1231) SOF 1405A (2136A)

USIMP used f3ar's actions against SoF as a justification for his FS, and you want me to ignore the fact that SoF was also hitting f3ar? Sorry, but no. That's not reasonable.

You cannot truthfully claim that USIMP had nothing to do with SoF, when they were both killing f3ar, and USIMP had used f3ar's actions against SoF as justification for the FS.

How far exactly have you shoved your head up your own ass?

n. they dont like you. you were easy to kill, they like easy kills. why dont you understand this?

imp is trash period

I do understand it, but I find it funny that they're trying to make up other excuses for it, rather than being honest about what they do.

As you well know, I love exposing people for their dishonesty.

and this is why zip will die when he tries to tag up on his own :)

rockman, our reasons are legit to us :) we play this GAME the way we want to :) if you don't like it tough. IMP gets bullied around all the time and we die. big whooping deal, I just go play wow or league or do other stuff.

Nothing any of you all can do or say damage us in anyway :) We'll just come back next set or wait for another to get you all

IMP4EVER

Your reasons may be legit to you, but you've made a habit of both lying and being a bully.

Since USIMP's war declaration referred to f3ar's actions against SOF, are you still claiming that SoF and USIMP have nothing to do with each other, and SoF's involvement in a 2v1 against f3ar is irrelevant when it comes to whether or not USIMP should have been exterminated?

mrford, tag up by yourself and show us not easy targets? We at IMP will practice our FS'ing skills

I'm a dirty Mexican

I cant believe rockman is even wasting his time here. IMP is a fluff alliance, always has been always will be.

I can't believe you always appear in IMP threads wasting your time as well lol

practice what you preach